This October 2010 issue of Personal Money, talks about creating regular income from rental properties. It recommends properties which are below 150k and show you how to calculate the net yield for properties. Certainly, buying properties which are below 150k in the right area is a sound strategy. One of the experts quoted in the article righly pointed out: most people can afford rental of RM800-1000 per month, while those that can afford 2k to 5k per month are much fewer and may be confined to expats. Further the number of such expats in Malaysia have declined over the last few years in line with a lower FDI inflow.
The article also highlights the perils of buying properties which are above 500k and expect to make capital gains only. By not being able to rent them out, you may be faced with negative cash flow every month from the property as you service your loan installment. You can refer to my earlier blog on the rental range of property that would be consider "bread and butter" properties.
** Chris
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Everyone knows that you can generate passive income from rental properties but how do you actually do it? The aim of this blog is to show you HOW you can, by investing in 'bread & butter properties". It is not as difficult as it looks. How do I know? Because I have done it, and so can you. I will share with you how to do this with real life examples in Malaysia.
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Thursday, November 11, 2010
Friday, October 29, 2010
Selling Your Property
This is a difficult one. On the one hand you have the DeRoos Golden Rules of property investing that says: "Never sell", and on the other, "Nothing is so good that you should own a 100% of". The truth is that it is somewhere in between, and that you may end up selling a few of your properties along the way to realise some profit. After all, once you sell, you can still buy some more property when the price is right. So, there is no right or wrong about selling.
I have been looking to sell a few of my own bread and butter properties, and realised that there is a process to this. Many books can give you some guidelines on: how to prepare the property, whether to use an agent, and also how to price the property for sale. One think I learnt is that when selling: Never be a desperate seller, as you will always come out the losing end. Make sure that you know what the market price is, and stick to your price that you want. And if you are not in a hurry, you should always get your price, sooner or later. So, be patient, not desperate.
The other thing about selling is that: you want to make sure your flat is neat, tidy and if possible newly painted. That adds a lot of value, and helps to justify a higher asking price. A new coat of paint always appeal to the buyer (its not that expensive to paint a flat, really). The other part of preparing the property for showing is that you have to decide whether you want to have it rented out during this period. The reason being it is much more difficult to show the flat if you have a tenant in. You have to make arrangement with the tenant to view, and somethimes that can be very tedious. For this reason, you may want to keep it empty while you sell it.
I would prefer to use an agent when selling. Being a busy person, it helps to have someone doing the showing, and assisting you in the negotiations with the buyer. Negotiate the agent fees upfront so that there are no dispute later on. And when appointing an agent, make sure he/she farms in the same areas (i.e. familiar with the properties). That can help to make sure your property gets sold, and at the price that you want. You may also consider having more than one agent to market your property, which will create some healthy competition. But having too many agents also has its downside, and they may not be interested to promote your property to their clients, given the heightened competition. So two agents is probably optimal.
Next we will look at how to price your property for sale, and how to get the price that you want.
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copyright Chris Gan@2010, www.breadnbutterproperty.blogspot.com
I have been looking to sell a few of my own bread and butter properties, and realised that there is a process to this. Many books can give you some guidelines on: how to prepare the property, whether to use an agent, and also how to price the property for sale. One think I learnt is that when selling: Never be a desperate seller, as you will always come out the losing end. Make sure that you know what the market price is, and stick to your price that you want. And if you are not in a hurry, you should always get your price, sooner or later. So, be patient, not desperate.
The other thing about selling is that: you want to make sure your flat is neat, tidy and if possible newly painted. That adds a lot of value, and helps to justify a higher asking price. A new coat of paint always appeal to the buyer (its not that expensive to paint a flat, really). The other part of preparing the property for showing is that you have to decide whether you want to have it rented out during this period. The reason being it is much more difficult to show the flat if you have a tenant in. You have to make arrangement with the tenant to view, and somethimes that can be very tedious. For this reason, you may want to keep it empty while you sell it.
I would prefer to use an agent when selling. Being a busy person, it helps to have someone doing the showing, and assisting you in the negotiations with the buyer. Negotiate the agent fees upfront so that there are no dispute later on. And when appointing an agent, make sure he/she farms in the same areas (i.e. familiar with the properties). That can help to make sure your property gets sold, and at the price that you want. You may also consider having more than one agent to market your property, which will create some healthy competition. But having too many agents also has its downside, and they may not be interested to promote your property to their clients, given the heightened competition. So two agents is probably optimal.
Next we will look at how to price your property for sale, and how to get the price that you want.
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copyright Chris Gan@2010, www.breadnbutterproperty.blogspot.com
Friday, October 1, 2010
It pays to check before you commit
Recently I was reminded of the importance of doing due diligence (check!) before you commit to a purchase. My friend sent me an article about the perils of not checking before signing the sales and purchase agreement (S&P); if the seller is a bankrupt, you, as the buyer may lose the down payment unless the bankrupt is solvent. Basically if you sign the S&P and have paid the 10% down payment, and then discover this – you are out of luck. You will have to wait your turn, together with all the unsecured lenders to get your money back. In the meantime, the deal is stuck as the seller as a bankrupt does not have any legal standing to consummate the deal in any case.
This brings me to the next point: hire a descent lawyer who knows what he/she is doing. This is one area you don’t want to be stingy on; don’t hire your friend unless he is well verse with conveyance matters. It can save you a lot of money (for example, if it stops you from making a mistake like signing with a bankrupt) and not to mention, a lot of pain, in the long run. Always do your bankruptcy check; and all good lawyers will advise you to do this before they proceed further.
There are all sorts of scams and tricksters out there nowadays. It pays to do your check; and as the saying goes: if it (a deal) is too good to be true, it probably is.
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“Bankrupt Seller”, T10, The Star, 14 Sept, 2010
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Monday, September 20, 2010
Some useful property books
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An old book is still "new" if you have not read it! |
1. The Richest Man in Town: The Twelve Commandments of Wealth, by W. Randall Jones - 2009
2. Trump: Think Like a Billionaire: Everything You Need to Know About Success, by Meredith McIver, Donald J. Trump – 2004
3. Investing in Gold Mine Houses: How to Uncover a Fortune Fixing Small Ugly Houses, by Jay P. DeCima - 2008
4. Building Wealth One House at a Time, by John W. Schaub - 2004
5. Real Estate Riches: How to Become Rich Using Your Banker's Money, by Dolf De Roos - 2004
6. Your Tenants, Your Jewels: The Complete, Unpresuming Guide on How to Become the Ultimate Landlord, by Renesial Leong - 2004
7. Commercial Real Estate Investing: A Creative Guide to Succesfully Making Money, by Dolf de Roos - 2008
8. The Insider's Guide to Making Money in Real Estate: Smart Steps to Building Your Wealth Through Property, Dolf de Roos, and Diane Kennedy - 2005
9. Think Like a Champion: An Informal Education in Business and Life, by Donald Trump, Meredith McIver - 2010
10. 2 Years to a Million in Real Estate, by Matthew A. Martinez - 2006
11. Powerhouse Principles: The Ultimate Blueprint for Real Estate Success in an Ever Changing Market, by Jorge Pérez - 2009
12. Trump-Style Negotiation: Powerful Strategies and Tactics for Mastering Every Deal, by George H. Ross - 2006
13. Trump: The Best Real Estate Advice I Ever Received: 100 Top Experts Share Their Strategies, Donald Trump - 2006
14. The Weekend Millionaire's Secrets to Investing in Real Estate, by Mike Summey, Roger Dawson - 2003
15. Secrets of power negotiating: inside secrets from a master negotiator, by Roger Dawson - 1999
16. Buy, Rent, and Sell: How to Profit by Investing in Residential Real Estate, by Robert Irwin - 2007
17. 101 Ways to Massively Increase the Value of Your Real Estate Without Spending Much Money, by Dolf De Roos - 2002
18. Real Estate Flipping: Grow Rich Buying and Selling Property, by Mark B. Weiss - 2004
19. Be a Real Estate Millionaire: How to Build Wealth for a Lifetime in an Uncertain Economy, by Dean Graziosi - 2009
20. Everything You Need to Know (but Forget to Ask) When Buying Or Selling Property, by Mary Smits - 2005
21. Tips and Traps When Negotiating Real Estate, by Robert Irwin - 2005
22. From 0 to 130 Properties in 3.5 Years, by Steve McKnight - 2010
23. Find It, Buy It, Fix It: The Insider's Guide to Fixer-Uppers, by Robert Irwin - 2006
24. Building Real Estate Wealth in a Changing Market: Reap Large Profits from John W. Schaub - 2007
25. Trump strategies for real estate: billionaire lessons for the small investor, by George H. Ross, Andrew James McLean - 2005
26. You Can Become Rich in Property, by Peter Yee, 2009
27. 100 Ways to Save Tax in Malaysia for Property Investors, by Richard Thornton, 2009
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copyright Chris Gan@2010, www.breadnbutterproperty.blogspot.com
Sunday, September 19, 2010
Financing: things that your banker won't do
I am sure you have all heard the saying: A banker is someone who lends you an umbrella when its sunny, and takes it away when it starts to pour! Well, although we can all laugh about this, but at the back of our minds we all know its true. Look at it from their perspective: most of the bankers are only rewarded with bonuses if they do well but if the loans they give turn bad, they will lose their jobs. So, you can say that their risk -reward ratio is a little skewed towards being conservative.
In any case, we need the bankers, as that's the only way we can get leverage. Otherwise how are you going to acquire millions of ringgit worth of rental properties? certainly not by deploying your own cash. So, we need to know what bankers' rules are and play by or around them.
4 Things Bankers won't do:
1) they won't loan you money when you really need it.
That's a fact. Try going to the bank and asking for a loan when you don't have a job or a pay slip. The banker would smile and promptly show you the door. So, having a pay slip helps: the bank will loan you a percentage of your gross salary and this can range from 60 - 85% depending on their risk appetite (also known as DSR or debt servicing ratio). So if you earn 10k a month, the max in terms of monthly repayments would be up to 8.5k. You can then work backwards and figure out how much properties you can buy.
2) they won't give you 100% of the purchase price
The bank wants you to have some equity in the property; some 'skin in the game', as they say. So it won't be so easy for you to walk away if things turn bad. But sometimes, you do get crazy situations like in the US prior to the subprime crisis where the banks were giving away loans which were way above 100% of the property value, and to people who could never afford it (even if they repaid it in 2 lifetimes!). But in most cases, banks want you to have at least 10% equity if its owner-occupied or 20-30% if its not. So, if you are looking to finance your rental properties 100% - see my earlier blog on "no money down".
3) they won't loan you more if you don't pay your instalments promptly
It is important to maintain a good track record with the banks on your existing loans. Being a little late in paying is acceptable but not behind in your payments. If you don't pay them after 3 months, you get black listed, and the bank may start legal proceedings to recover their loan. You may lose your property if they move to foreclose. But more importantly, this sort of thing may affect your ability to borrow more, to finance your rental properties portfolio in future So, make sure you are on top of your instalment payments - its just good business.
4) they won't make a decision fast enough when you need the money
Yes, if you are looking to buy a really good piece of property, and need to close on it fast, then the bank is not the place to go. The banker is in no hurry to loan you the money; they work at their pace and not yours. I have never met a banker that has the same urgency as I have when faced with a super deal. So, in such situation, you need to have some back up financing. Borrowing from family and friends, or finding other equity partners may be better alternatives. And, then later financing it through the bank. That way, you are more likely to close on a good deal. Much less stressful than praying for the banker to come through with the loan when you need it!
Well, those are the four things I have experienced with bankers. Let me know if you know of more.
Chris
copyright Chris Gan@2010, www.breadnbutterproperty.blogspot.com
In any case, we need the bankers, as that's the only way we can get leverage. Otherwise how are you going to acquire millions of ringgit worth of rental properties? certainly not by deploying your own cash. So, we need to know what bankers' rules are and play by or around them.
4 Things Bankers won't do:
1) they won't loan you money when you really need it.
That's a fact. Try going to the bank and asking for a loan when you don't have a job or a pay slip. The banker would smile and promptly show you the door. So, having a pay slip helps: the bank will loan you a percentage of your gross salary and this can range from 60 - 85% depending on their risk appetite (also known as DSR or debt servicing ratio). So if you earn 10k a month, the max in terms of monthly repayments would be up to 8.5k. You can then work backwards and figure out how much properties you can buy.
2) they won't give you 100% of the purchase price
The bank wants you to have some equity in the property; some 'skin in the game', as they say. So it won't be so easy for you to walk away if things turn bad. But sometimes, you do get crazy situations like in the US prior to the subprime crisis where the banks were giving away loans which were way above 100% of the property value, and to people who could never afford it (even if they repaid it in 2 lifetimes!). But in most cases, banks want you to have at least 10% equity if its owner-occupied or 20-30% if its not. So, if you are looking to finance your rental properties 100% - see my earlier blog on "no money down".
3) they won't loan you more if you don't pay your instalments promptly
It is important to maintain a good track record with the banks on your existing loans. Being a little late in paying is acceptable but not behind in your payments. If you don't pay them after 3 months, you get black listed, and the bank may start legal proceedings to recover their loan. You may lose your property if they move to foreclose. But more importantly, this sort of thing may affect your ability to borrow more, to finance your rental properties portfolio in future So, make sure you are on top of your instalment payments - its just good business.
4) they won't make a decision fast enough when you need the money
Yes, if you are looking to buy a really good piece of property, and need to close on it fast, then the bank is not the place to go. The banker is in no hurry to loan you the money; they work at their pace and not yours. I have never met a banker that has the same urgency as I have when faced with a super deal. So, in such situation, you need to have some back up financing. Borrowing from family and friends, or finding other equity partners may be better alternatives. And, then later financing it through the bank. That way, you are more likely to close on a good deal. Much less stressful than praying for the banker to come through with the loan when you need it!
Well, those are the four things I have experienced with bankers. Let me know if you know of more.
Chris
copyright Chris Gan@2010, www.breadnbutterproperty.blogspot.com
Friday, September 17, 2010
How 5% growth every year can make you rich
I was reminded about the importance of this when talking to a friend recently, who had made some pretty descent gains, buying and selling houses. If you are in this business of flipping, then you should be looking at at least 20-30% gains to make it worthwhile, for the time, risk and money it takes.
However, this is not what creating passive income from rental properties is all about. Generally, such rental properties do not appreciate by 20-30% per year unless in exceptional cases. But you can probably expect the value to grow by say around 4-5% per year. And believe it or not, that should be enough to make you rich.
Let's say for example, you bought a flat that costs RM100k, and financed it 100% (i.e. loan of RM100k @6% p.a. interest). The interest & principal repayment is roughly RM620 per month, and assume that this is for 30 yrs. Now, if your property value grows by 5% p.a., it would take approximately 14.4 years to double in value ( Rule 72: where you divide 72/5). And if the growth is 7%, then it will take you a shorter time - 10.3yrs instead. Note in your monthly instalment, you pay more towards interest intially but over time, your payment towards your principal increases (hence, building your equity in the property).
Now, this interesting because, every month as long as you are repaying your instalment, your equity in the house builds up (see the chart above) and finally after 30 yrs, you would have 100% equity; the total interest paid is RM122k, while the property value is around RM432k. So, selling it at that point would net you RM210k! Not much? Well, if you had 10 units of such flats, that would be a cool RM2.1mil gain (if you were to sell of course, and have not refinanced it along the way). This is not taking into account the positive cash flow (plus compounding interest) that you get along the way if your rental is higher than your monthly repayments. Not a bad deal, right? All this from a simple 5% growth per year.
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copyright Chris Gan@2010, www.breadnbutterproperty.blogspot.com
However, this is not what creating passive income from rental properties is all about. Generally, such rental properties do not appreciate by 20-30% per year unless in exceptional cases. But you can probably expect the value to grow by say around 4-5% per year. And believe it or not, that should be enough to make you rich.
Let's say for example, you bought a flat that costs RM100k, and financed it 100% (i.e. loan of RM100k @6% p.a. interest). The interest & principal repayment is roughly RM620 per month, and assume that this is for 30 yrs. Now, if your property value grows by 5% p.a., it would take approximately 14.4 years to double in value ( Rule 72: where you divide 72/5). And if the growth is 7%, then it will take you a shorter time - 10.3yrs instead. Note in your monthly instalment, you pay more towards interest intially but over time, your payment towards your principal increases (hence, building your equity in the property).
Now, this interesting because, every month as long as you are repaying your instalment, your equity in the house builds up (see the chart above) and finally after 30 yrs, you would have 100% equity; the total interest paid is RM122k, while the property value is around RM432k. So, selling it at that point would net you RM210k! Not much? Well, if you had 10 units of such flats, that would be a cool RM2.1mil gain (if you were to sell of course, and have not refinanced it along the way). This is not taking into account the positive cash flow (plus compounding interest) that you get along the way if your rental is higher than your monthly repayments. Not a bad deal, right? All this from a simple 5% growth per year.
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copyright Chris Gan@2010, www.breadnbutterproperty.blogspot.com
Wednesday, September 15, 2010
What if you can't rent out the properties
What if you can't rent out your properties? This is one of the frequently asked questions and it relates to tenant management. I get asked this question a lot, by people that I talk to about this idea of creating passive income from rental properties and also indirectly by banks. By limiting how much you can borrow, they are effectively saying "hey, we are not sure if you can afford this loan". Sure, you plan to rent them out but "what if" all your tenants either don't pay or worse still, all decide to leave?
Firstly, what if they don't pay? There are obviously ways to mitigate this problem. Firstly, there is the 2+1mths deposit that they pay up front. Normally, if they are late in paying their rent, that is usually a red flag that they are planning to leave; tenants are normally worried that you may delay paying them back their deposits, and would often try to "run-down" their deposits. Hence, they will not pay the last month or if possible last 2 months. You need to be alert, and I normally would just call them and ask if they plan to leave. I don't mind them not paying for 1 month but not for both. And more importanly, I get to quickly look for a new tenant before the existing one moves out. So, in most cases, my flats are never empty for long.
Secondly, what if they decide to leave? Well, then I would just need to find new tenants! That is the name of the game. But, I know what most people mean when they ask this question. What happens if they all decide to leave, at the same time? how then do you service your loans? To answer that:
1) Diversify - there is a saying " If you owe the bank RM100k, and you don't pay, you have a problem. But if you owe them RM1mil, and you don't pay, then THEY have the problem". What it means is: diversify. Think about this: if you have 20 rental properties, what are the chances that they are all empty at the same time? Not likely unless there is a bubonic plaque or SARS hitting the area, right. So, you need to make sure that even if half of the flats are empty (which is unlikely); that the rental from the other half is enough to cover all your bank instalments for that month, while you look for new tenants.
2) Invest in bread & butter properties
Now, which is easier to rent out? A condo at RM1500 per month rental or a flat for RM500 per month. Chances are, they are both easy or difficult to rent out depending on location, etc. But, If you had 3 flats each getting you RM500/mth (or total of RM1500) - the chances of you not being able to rent all of them out, at same time is pretty slim. Further, as I mentioned earlier in my blog posting, the average wage earner in Malaysia can afford RM500 for rent but there are not many that may be able to afford RM1500/month, and for those who do, normally have more choices to chose from.
3) Do something!
Those who ask the question, what happens if you can't rent them out always assume that you as a landlord would sit around and do nothing. And at the end of the month are surprised by your tenants all deciding to leave at the same time. In reality, you would have warning signs such as late payment, and in some cases, the tenant will let you know in advance they are leaving. So you need to quickly mobilise your agent to find new tenants. In an area which is "hot" for rental, there is usually not much problem finding someone to fill the vacancy. In the worst case scenario, if you reduce the rent a little, you would be able to rent it out quickly; this is an option as less money is better than no money (if its empty for one or two months).
I hope this answers the oft asked question of "what if you can rent them out".
Chris
copyright Chris Gan@2010, www.breadnbutterproperty.blogspot.com
Firstly, what if they don't pay? There are obviously ways to mitigate this problem. Firstly, there is the 2+1mths deposit that they pay up front. Normally, if they are late in paying their rent, that is usually a red flag that they are planning to leave; tenants are normally worried that you may delay paying them back their deposits, and would often try to "run-down" their deposits. Hence, they will not pay the last month or if possible last 2 months. You need to be alert, and I normally would just call them and ask if they plan to leave. I don't mind them not paying for 1 month but not for both. And more importanly, I get to quickly look for a new tenant before the existing one moves out. So, in most cases, my flats are never empty for long.
Secondly, what if they decide to leave? Well, then I would just need to find new tenants! That is the name of the game. But, I know what most people mean when they ask this question. What happens if they all decide to leave, at the same time? how then do you service your loans? To answer that:
1) Diversify - there is a saying " If you owe the bank RM100k, and you don't pay, you have a problem. But if you owe them RM1mil, and you don't pay, then THEY have the problem". What it means is: diversify. Think about this: if you have 20 rental properties, what are the chances that they are all empty at the same time? Not likely unless there is a bubonic plaque or SARS hitting the area, right. So, you need to make sure that even if half of the flats are empty (which is unlikely); that the rental from the other half is enough to cover all your bank instalments for that month, while you look for new tenants.
2) Invest in bread & butter properties
Now, which is easier to rent out? A condo at RM1500 per month rental or a flat for RM500 per month. Chances are, they are both easy or difficult to rent out depending on location, etc. But, If you had 3 flats each getting you RM500/mth (or total of RM1500) - the chances of you not being able to rent all of them out, at same time is pretty slim. Further, as I mentioned earlier in my blog posting, the average wage earner in Malaysia can afford RM500 for rent but there are not many that may be able to afford RM1500/month, and for those who do, normally have more choices to chose from.
3) Do something!
Those who ask the question, what happens if you can't rent them out always assume that you as a landlord would sit around and do nothing. And at the end of the month are surprised by your tenants all deciding to leave at the same time. In reality, you would have warning signs such as late payment, and in some cases, the tenant will let you know in advance they are leaving. So you need to quickly mobilise your agent to find new tenants. In an area which is "hot" for rental, there is usually not much problem finding someone to fill the vacancy. In the worst case scenario, if you reduce the rent a little, you would be able to rent it out quickly; this is an option as less money is better than no money (if its empty for one or two months).
I hope this answers the oft asked question of "what if you can rent them out".
Chris
copyright Chris Gan@2010, www.breadnbutterproperty.blogspot.com
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